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[Icecube]

I'm still a newbie in FE editing (FE7). I've some trouble in making a magic weapon (the one like runesword).

1. How can I make my new weapon have magic animation for meele and ranged attack?(i.e. nosferatu, the one like runesword). I'm using 0x9A for weapon. I've tried to make exact duplicate of runesword in nightmare (item editor and spell association module, and with some modification, with custom item animation). I've even tried to swap item id in SA module, but it didn't work.
2. How can I set the element of my magic weapon? (in my case, magic sword)

Edit on #1. The animation works only for ranged attack. I want to make it works for meele attack too.

[Golden Warrior]

QUOTE (Icecube @ Mar 22 2012, 04:05 AM)

I'm still a newbie in FE editing (FE7). I've some trouble in making a magic weapon (the one like runesword). 1. How can I make my new weapon have magic animation for meele and ranged attack?(i.e. nosferatu, the one like runesword). I'm using 0x9A for weapon. I've tried to make exact duplicate of runesword in nightmare (item editor and spell association module, and with some modification, with custom item animation). I've even tried to swap item id in SA module, but it didn't work. 2. How can I set the element of my magic weapon? (in my case, magic sword) Edit on #1. The animation works only for ranged attack. I want to make it works for meele attack too.

1. I've never really had this problem, but you could look at the properties of a tome and copy those over.

2.Well, if you mean light, anima, and dark. The class determines that. If you meant the animation, well, that's animation.

[Icecube]

1. I've looked at them. I've even copied Runesword, the only magical weapon (not the tome) in FE7 that has magic animation for both meele and ranged attack (I've not tried to copy a tome since what I want to make is a magical weapon for weapon holder) (and try to swap it's animation with it). I find no specific weapon animation for Runesword (in battle animation editor module/nightmare).
2. Class has nothing to do with the element. What I mean is how to make an elemental magic weapon such as Wind Sword with it's Anima element, Runesword with Dark / Elder element, and Light brand with Light element. I.e. Light brand user has trinity advantages over Flux user

[Golden Warrior]

QUOTE (Icecube @ Mar 26 2012, 10:53 AM)

1. I've looked at them. I've even copied Runesword, the only magical weapon (not the tome) in FE7 that has magic animation for both meele and ranged attack (I've not tried to copy a tome since what I want to make is a magical weapon for weapon holder) (and try to swap it's animation with it). I find no specific weapon animation for Runesword (in battle animation editor module/nightmare). 2. Class has nothing to do with the element. What I mean is how to make an elemental magic weapon such as Wind Sword with it's Anima element, Runesword with Dark / Elder element, and Light brand with Light element. I.e. Light brand user has trinity advantages over Flux user

1. The Runesword uses a Nosferatu animation not it's own.

2. I have no Idea how to do that. Sorry.

[Icecube]

I'm sorry for not telling the detail.
Note. I'm using nightmare module provided.

Using Spell Association Editor:
1. Set Animation 0x60: weapon = 0x9A; No chars = 2; Animation used = 0x1E; A. Pointer = 0x00; Return = 0x01; Facing = 0x00; Flashing = 0x00. (Note that the differences with runesword[0x68] animation are only animation number and weapon number). This change works well only for ranged attack.
2. Swap weapon number between 0x60 (0x9A) and 0x68 (0x11 or runesword). This change doesn't make any differences from first change.

Using Item Editor
1. Set Item 0x9A as an EXACT COPY of Item 0x11 (runesword) (I've verified it with windhex). This new item only has spell animation for ranged attack.

P.S. Sorry for using a confusing phrase in my last post.

[Golden Warrior]

QUOTE (Icecube @ Mar 31 2012, 02:04 AM)

1. Set Item 0x9A as an EXACT COPY of Item 0x11 (runesword) (I've verified it with windhex). This new item only has spell animation for ranged attack.

Should you be editing 9A? Well, I can't seem to find the problem. I gave the Light Brand all the same properties and nothing.

Although, for your weapon type thing. It's in the weapon type area. It will have, Anima, Light, Dark, and Staff. That will do it there.

[Icecube]

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Should you be editing 9A?

I'm trying to add some new magic weapon (like some anima lance etc.).
Since 0x9A is still considered as an item slot, (as a proof, animation 0x60 is set by default as animation for 0x9A), I'm trying to edit that slot.

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I gave the Light Brand all the same properties and nothing.

Light brand has a bit differences with runesword. Light brand does magic attack on ranged attack only, but runesword does magic attack on both meele and ranged attack
(I.e. if you give light brand nosferatu animation and effect, there will be no animation of absorbing hp for meele attack).

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Although, for your weapon type thing. It's in the weapon type area. It will have, Anima, Light, Dark, and Staff. That will do it there.

Just take a look on runesword. Runesword is treated as a sword (when battling axe) and as a dark weapon (when battling anima user).
In item editor, runesword is classified as a sword.

[Golden Warrior]

QUOTE (Icecube @ Mar 31 2012, 02:09 PM)

I'm trying to add some new magic weapon (like some anima lance etc.). Since 0x9A is still considered as an item slot, (as a proof, animation 0x60 is set by default as animation for 0x9A), I'm trying to edit that slot. Light brand has a bit differences with runesword. Light brand does magic attack on ranged attack only, but runesword does magic attack on both meele and ranged attack (I.e. if you give light brand nosferatu animation and effect, there will be no animation of absorbing hp for meele attack). Just take a look on runesword. Runesword is treated as a sword (when battling axe) and as a dark weapon (when battling anima user). In item editor, runesword is classified as a sword.

Hm... Well, I was told not to edit 9A. Whatever. Hm... I can't find any differences between the two. I'm sorry, but it must be hardcoded. But, for the new magic tome, try setting the weapon ability to 0x03. Sorry, I probably can't help anymore...

[Icecube]

Thanks for answering.

[Icecube]

Sorry for necroposting in this topic, but I find the solution of this problem (after 2 years without FE).
FE 7 has 3 non-ordinary weapon with same meele and ranged animation. They are Runesword, Hand Axe, and Tomahawk. They are checked in 0x52D58, 0x52D84, and 0x52DAC. Due to poor algorithm(too many comparing), there is enough space for customizing them (e.g. creating more "magic sword/hand axe variant"), especially after ROM expansion. Note. The same thing also happened to Blessing of 8 Generals animation, so it's possible to revive all 8 Legendary weapons (with the blessing of 8 generals).

[Fire Blazer]

that's some neat info, so you could potentially make more special weapons like these by hardcoding more or softcoding them from scratch and using the softcoded implementation, huh? awesome! thanks for sharing! and no problem necroposting for a good reason! =)

[Icecube]

Maybe taking back my long lost project has its own worth. Now it's possible to make more magic sword with elemental properties, or even recreating all magic tome as sword. Still need some time to implement them into Nightmare module though.

[Snow]

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Now it's possible to make more magic sword with elemental properties, or even recreating all magic tome as sword. Still need some time to implement them into Nightmare module though.

Could you give an explanation on this? I'm not sure I understood what you're referring to when you mention that this is possible XD.
Especially this:

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They are checked in 0x52D58, 0x52D84, and 0x52DAC.

I'm afraid I have no idea what this means XD.

[Icecube]

Open a vba disassembler and it's written there.

What checked in the 52D58(08052D58 in VBA address) is whether the weapon is Runesword or not (0x11 is Runesword ID). If the weapon is runesword, then it will use ranged animation for both meele and ranged. The same with the other two.

Recently, I found 3 other groups of address. 28520, which halve your strength in calculating ATTACK (not DAMAGE), 288E6, which assign your element, and 28F08, which halve your strength in calculating DAMAGE (not ATTACK). The first checks Runesword only, and the later two check all three weapon.

When a weapon is checked at the last check, the weapon will do reduced damage. Strangely though, when a weapon is assigned elemental properties, and checked at the last check, they will do reduced damage only when the elemental weapon is triggered.

Note that all of the attribute above can be applied only if the weapon is set as magic weapon(FE7 module>item editor).

[Icecube]

Finally. A nightmare module for implementing ranged weapon animation into meele battle. Note that the only animation for ranged axe is throwing axe (if we think about original content.). Magical attribute for weapon is currently in waiting list.

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